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Mumble - SMV Starting Guide

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Mumble - SMV Starting Guide

Post by developing_success on Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:50 am

Easiest tutorial:

1) Install mumble from here: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/mumble/Mumble/1.2.0/Mumble-1.2.0.exe?use_mirror=kent
2) Click on server -> connect -> Add new... (or custom servers for older version) then enter these details:
Address: self-development.no-ip.info
Port: 64738 (it's default)
Username: (your SMV name)
3) After you succesfully conected please click on audio-> mute self when it's not your turn to speak, when it's your turn click on audio -> mute self again to unmute yourself
(TIP: You know if you are talking ifthe lips near your name turn red)



So far mumble seems to be the best solution for now, since Skype can't handle too many people. Skype will be used for chat purpose since Mumble has limited chat usage. Please note that we didn't test it yet with large groups of people, but we expect it will go smoothly :)

Pro's:
+Good Sound quality
+Easy to set up
+Light and stable

Con's:
-Poor chat ability (use skype for this purpose)


Hosting Issues:
1.I'm looking for a good free host. I've found one, it says no limitations, i'm to waiting for their response.
2.If the first hosting solution fails we could use any existing empty server/channel from http://free-mumble.com/index.php?l=en .I cannot create a mumble server there because it's FULL now. Look at the specifications:
- FREE server!
- From 100 to 500 slots.
- All codecs available.
- A connection to 100mb/s for servers.
- The professional tools at your disposal.
- You receive your server IMMEDIATELY.
- No limit creation server (except the intervening 12 hours).
- Use of unique Mumble VCF system.
3. Run Murmur (Mumble server) on a PC with good internet connection.

Recording Issue *FIXED*
Current People that record: Viktorados and DS
Step to record:
1. Install Windows XP on a virtual Machine. (Note: Do this if you have a powerful PC/Laptop)
2. Install necessary drivers, Mumble , Virtual Audio Cable ( http://rapid share.com/files/199763661/vac408full.zip ), Absolute Recorder ( http://rapid share.com/files/199764796/Absolute.Sound.Recorder.v3.x.Incl.Key.rar )
3. Open Virtual Audio Cable Control Panel. At the Connected source line tick all the 3 boxes (Mic, Line, S/PDIF). Click on the "Set" button then minimize.
4. After doing all the Mumble Steps from the post above (Mute it's Microphone from Audio->Mute Self). Next Go to Configure->Audio Wizard and change Output Device to Virtual Cable 1. Also mute Windows XP Microphone that runs in Virtual Machine.
5. Open Absolute Sound Recorder. Go to Recording Controls and choose Input Device: Virtual Cable 1. Press Record and that's it. Don't Forget to test if it works ;)

SMV Mumble Tutorial:
1. Download and install Mumble for:
*Windows ( http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mumble/Mumble-1.1.7.exe )
*Mac OSX ( http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mumble/Mumble-1.1.7.dmg )
Download page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=147372
Installing Guide: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Installing_Mumble

2. Open Mumble then Follow the sound setup tutorial
3. Go to Configure->Settings->Audio Input and set: Transmit-> Push to talk and Quality 10
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4. Configure->Settings->Shortcuts left click on the first white field where it says Push-to-talk and then press Left Control button (or any other one you wish) Note: In order to talk you need to keep it pressed, you know that you are transmitting the message if your icon turns from grey to red
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5. Press Apply then Ok
6. Go to Audio and untick Text-to-speech narrator
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7. Server->Connect-> Custom Servers and enter the following details:
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Label: SMV Coaching
Address: (---will be announced 30 mins prior to conference---)
Port: (---will be announced 30 mins prior to conference---)
Username: write your SMV nickname
Password: leave blank

Optional: Click on the "Add" button to add the server in the list.
8. Press Connect and on the warning screen click on "Yes"
X. In case of sound or microphone problems, simply re-run the Audio Wizard and click Next on every page.

Now you are in the SMV Conference. This is how the conference is organized:
Conference Call Rules:
1) 5 minutes before the start, a group chat with #selfmadevip.com# skype group is launched, where questions and rules are posted, a list of active/passive participants is formed and speaking order is posted in the chat
2) after a speaking order is agreed, conference host begins to read the questions and announces the next
user who will answer them (according to the order list)
3) a list of topic related questions is usually prepared 1-2 days before the conference call
4) if some interesting questions arise during the conference call - they can be posted in the chat, and will be announced by the moderator right away (later on he will resume with the prepared ones)

Speaking rules:
1) whenever the participant has finished talking, he/she says "OUT", so that other members will know when to continue
2) at the end of his/her own speech every participant has to sum up his ideas in one sentence
3) when leaving the conference call, every member is given 1-2 minutes to sum up in a couple of sentences, what valuable ideas did they receive from it and how will they benefit from this call
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Re: [Project] Mumble - SMV Starting Guide

Post by viktorados on Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:44 am

Looks well done.
The only thing which remains would be the recording tool which could record from audio mix :D
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Re: [Project] Mumble - SMV Starting Guide

Post by saison on Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:18 am

Looks good alternative to Skype.Will try.Thank DS.
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Re: [Project] Mumble - SMV Starting Guide

Post by viktorados on Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:29 am

It looks as if we can record Mumble sessions using Audacity ;)
Here is the FAQ:
http://mumble.sourceforge.net/FAQ#Recording
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Re: [Project] Mumble - SMV Starting Guide

Post by developing_success on Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:55 pm

viktorados wrote:It looks as if we can record Mumble sessions using Audacity ;)
Here is the FAQ:
http://mumble.sourceforge.net/FAQ#Recording

If you login from another computer and use it to record only input sounds.
Many people use Mumble for podcasting/radio because of it's high quality and low latency, and we realize that some people want to record their conversation on Mumble for these types of purposes.

On Windows this is fairly simple, there are many different programs that can capture audio. Audacity is a good program for doing this. Many people just use a spare computer they have and login to the Murmur server and set Audacity to record "What U Hear".

My ideas to record so far:
- Use virtual audio cable
- Use the second audio board i have integrated in my keyboard
- Try the Vista double record thing
- Last Option: Use my spare Computer
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